‘Quitting is the first step.’

The Lore of Julius BaDour

In April of 2021, we interviewed Julius BaDour in Santa Fe, New Mexico. At 18, he lost his job, broke up with his girlfriend, and left behind all the ties that were keeping him in his hometown of Madison, Wisconsin. Exactly two years later, Alan gave him a call to catch up.

Note: This audio story was also produced for WHYY’s The Pulse.

Santa Fe, New Mexico
Interview Dates: April 26, 2021 and April 26, 2023